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This was excellent and I hope a lot of people hear it. Steven Hassan has a rare combination of life experience and academic knowledge so he can really educate us. Rachel is always interesting and insightful, but I like that she both asks for detail and then steps back enough to give Hassan room to explain his ideas.

Just one suggestion. Rachel or her technicians edit should out the first couple of minutes where she and Steven are setting up your sound system and also the end, where they do similar stuff.

There's a reason setup talk usually gets edited out. It weakens the show and loses prospective listeners who move on before they realize the great content to come.

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Egads, that's the 2nd time recently that the wrong sound file ended up being attached. Is fixed now

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Excellent Interview! Thanks!

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LOL. I had been a Bitecofer fan already but this was the first time I heard anything here so I thought maybe soundcheck stuff was intentional here as part of a laid-back atmosphere. That's why I suggested a different approach :)

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Thank you so much! What a terrifying thing this is but facing it and learning how to actually defeat it is just --- the most important thing in the world. Thank you.

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